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kratoshommie · #1 04-25-2007, 12:49 AM

Do u think it fair that critics are already calling sonys machine dead and failed? I think that judging a thing this early out of the gate is not fair and accurate. sony's machine is moving up but some still want to cut it down

crash1202 · #2 04-25-2007, 01:02 AM

Your right but it is moving slowly but slow is good I want them to take their time to make this ssytem as good as it can be.....

Zim · #3 04-25-2007, 01:13 AM

If you dig into the past news archives there is lots of intresting stuff :

Basicaly no one can judge if the Playstation is gona bomb or not or if its crap or not simply becaue its only just come out. What do people expect even the 360 didnt particualry had any great games at its release date.

http://www.xb360info.com/xbox/news/201

First generation Xbox 360 games all single threaded

Oct 28, 2005 @ 1:32 am · By Nicole Stiles
Filed under News, Games · German Deutsch

Microsoft has disclosed that the first generation of Xbox 360 games will be single threaded, despite the console’s multicore architecture.
Herb Sutter

Herb Sutter

The Inquirer was present at a recent lecture on multithreading at the Fall Processor Forum, and has reported that Microsoft, after using the Xbox 360’s three core, two thread per core architecture as an example in their presentation, went on to say that all first-generation Xbox 360 games would be single threaded.

Part of the reason for this may lie in the software development community’s apparent lack of experience with multithreaded programming.

In another lecture at the Fall Processor Forum, Microsoft software architect Herb Sutter stated that, to date, many application developers had been developing single threaded applications exclusively, and may be finding the switch to multithreaded programming somewhat challenging.

Historically, first-generation games for any new console don’t fully utilize the console’s improved hardware and processing power.

Although demos of Xbox 360 launch titles have impressed many, gamers can expect more “next-gen” looking titles from the second generation of Xbox 360 games and beyond, as developers become better acquainted with the subtleties of programming for the new console.

Edited to say :

Just go and look at the xbox forums and select the last post option to see what was happening at the xbox release time, it dosent look any greater than the ps3.

http://www.xbox360forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=724

http://www.xbox360forum.com/forum/fo...359&order=desc

Charlie · #4 04-25-2007, 01:25 AM

From the current outlook, the critics wouldn't be wrong. Unless if the PS3 can pick up sales and a better library to prove otherwise.

Callmege · #5 04-25-2007, 01:45 AM

PS3 fanboys often make fun of the small games library the Wii has but today I walked into game to buy Guild Wars Nightfall and had a look at the Wii section.... there were loads of games there for a 6 month old console!

Zim · #6 04-25-2007, 01:50 AM

I walked into a game shop today and seen the amount of PS2 games compared to all formats and well that totaly out numbered all formats.

I think with the sucess of the ps2 sony has the money to make the ps3 work, I think we wont know for sure until summer or maybe even christmas.

Charlie · #7 04-25-2007, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Callmege

there were loads of games there for a 6 month old console!

And how many of those actually interest you?

Dave-ex · #8 04-25-2007, 02:15 AM

does no one understand that the PS3 just came out damn, no one can judge it yet its a great system, no an increadible system and most people see the price and turn away or say they will wait for a price drop its worth the money, but it seems like some people can use their BRIANS and see what is right in front of them.

crash1202 · #9 04-25-2007, 02:20 AM

Has anyone realized it isnt the lack of games they base it on but what sony has done in the past with Blu-Ray and other products (including PS2's beggining)

Charlie · #10 04-25-2007, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ex

no one can judge it yet its a great system, no an increadible system

I like how you say nobody can judge the PS3, yet you go right ahead and say it's a great -- no, an incredible system, all in one sentence.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ex

but it seems like some people can use their BRIANS and see what is right in front of them.

LOL, at least spell brains correctly.

Dave-ex · #11 04-25-2007, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie

I like how you say nobody can judge the PS3, yet you go right ahead and say it's a great -- no, an incredible system, all in one sentence.

LOL, at least spell brains correctly.

oh great responce how long u took to write that and think it up.

Dave-ex · #12 04-25-2007, 02:52 AM

and i stand by my statement there's nothing false about it, and u know that, u know these topics are getting old quick, i dont know why people bring these things up, and try to be the judge when need to keep quiet and stop starting worthless posts.

Cell Broadband Engine · #13 04-25-2007, 04:28 AM

I think it's funny how people see the PS3 as a failure. The PlayStation 3 is going to explode. Just look at Motorstorm, thats a 1st Gen game for PlayStation 3. Just wait to see what the 2nd gen games look like after a year. Then we will see something as gorgeous as gears of war. To me, I think Little Big Planet is the game that's going to lift the sales of PlayStation 3. Everyone watch videos up on that game. http://www.gametrailers.com/ its the best game out there, haha!

ScootaKuH · #14 04-25-2007, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie

I like how you say nobody can judge the PS3, yet you go right ahead and say it's a great -- no, an incredible system, all in one sentence.

LOL, at least spell brains correctly.

To be fair though your responses there are a little childish especially your jibe about spelling, people can and do make mistakes, this has nothing to do with the topic at hand, you knew what he was talking about so what's your problem?

Also as said before the biggest thing against the PS3 is the price and also the fact that quite a lot of the games out of the PS3 at the mo are ports of 12+ month old PC and 360 games (FNR3, F.E.A.R and Oblivion to name 3). How can anyone justify spending £400+ on the games they've probably already played and maybe even owned on 360? Money is precious and no matter which way you look at it the PS3 is a LOT of money, whether you deem it worth the outlay is simply down to personal preference.
I am a gamer and I bought the PS3 as an investment into the future of gaming, I didn't do it without a lot of thought because if the PS3 really does die I will be extremely disappointed not least because of the money I will have lost on it but also because it will mean the loss of a fantastic gaming franchise as I think Sony will be unlikely to EVER resurrect the PlayStation brand. It has a lot to offer the gaming community and I hate to see it being slated at every turn, especially for the fact that most criticism on forums seems to come from people that have only got their information from hearsay and have not actually seen the system for themselves. What we need is a bit of open mindedness. Less of the childish schoolyard bickering and more constructive topics.
As for the future I think that if Sony handle this situation right the future could be very bright indeed. The PS3 has massive potential under that shiny black shell, it just needs to be harnessed and this takes time. Devs have to get to grips with this new hardware but given the chance they could work wonders with it. The trick here is clever marketing on Sony's part, because without a substantial install base the PS3 will NEVER get these games it so sorely deserves. Sony so far have tried to bamboozle us with supposedly 'intelligent' ad campaigns that, tbh, have nothing at all to do with the machine, they're too clever for their own good and I don't think they really sell the machine well at all. I say keep the 'This is Living' slogan but get back to basics and give us some in game footage so we can see what the machine is really capable of.

One final word. I DO believe the PS3 will pick up pace, once Home gets onto market, and IF Sony can manage to keep MGS4 and FF XIII exclusive this will also help bolster sales. But they do need to act fast. They have made a lot of bad moves regarding repeated delays and then stripping out the Emotion chip from EU gamers, and people ran out of patience. They have a great deal of experience with the gaming industry, from the success of PS1 and PS2 it was foolish of Sony to (quite arrogantly) think the PS3 was going to be an instant success. Like I said, they have the knowledge and experience, they just need to implement it in the right way.

Rant over

Callmege · #15 04-25-2007, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie

And how many of those actually interest you?

Well I don't know cuz I didn't look specifically but there are 4 or 5 Wii games that I would like to play at some point in the future.

NightCougar · #16 04-25-2007, 11:54 AM

i think that the majority of ps3 hating critics have not even played a ps3 yet, i dont think anyone can be a critic unless they have seen for themselves first. thats why i like this forum, a lot of people in here have played both the ps3 and the 360 and their comments and opinions are valid becuase of that. if you play a ps3 and hate it, thats a fair opinion, but if you aint played how can you comment based on jus articles and basic specifications.

it may well be too early to give acurate Criticism, ps3 does need time to grow and show its worth. progress is slow but sony can still turn things aroung, in this business things can change very quickly

i think ps3 will do well, never as well as ps2,that thing rocked, but good enough to keep me happy and supply me with stunning games, thats all that matters

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